4age oil cooler options

[brad]

gday
I have just started a full rebuild of a black/blue 4age, this engine will be used to power my drift/thrash car, (not for long, just till i can afford a 4agze half cut).
I am going to fit an oil cooler to it, and was just wondering where to start.
I read the article in hpi about beau yates car, and it said that it used a ca18det cooler and that it bolted straight onto the engine. any truth behind this.
thanks brad

[upgarage]

yeah can fit
provided the thread is the same

could also use standard fwd sandwich plate and make up some lines once you have mounted your core

[Monster]

The truth? Yes they fit no worries, the biggest problem with oil coolers is that if you buy a cheap dodgy one, they can reduce oil pressure a little too much. Ive got a HKS remote filter kit and had to get rid of my core because it would not work with my VVT-i.

My personal suggestion is to buy one from Just Jap with the steel braided lines, they're quite expensive (around $800) but theres almost no pressure drop and you can't melt the oil lines (which i've done now... twice)

[Hyuga]

if you want to do it cheap, I was going to get a cheap sandwich plate for like 80 bucks, you may find cheaper (with thermostat at least), then go to wrecker get an automatic transmition cooler off some family car(like magna).

[ae86 slide]

Ive got a HKS remote filter kit and had to get rid of my core because it would not work with my VVT-i.[/b]

so it actually stoped your vvt-i, silver or black top? cos i have a silver top and am currently finding out what the best cooler would be for me, alot of other people say that there is no interferance at all,

[Monster]

I had a no name core (read: automatic trans cooler from a EA falcon) so yeah- with the black tops, oil pressure dips quite heavily when VVT-i comes on, no so on the silvertops, dont know why.

As far as I know, its only the blacktops which are sensitive to oil pressure, though I still wouldn't


I was going to get a cheap sandwich plate for like 80 bucks, you may find cheaper (with thermostat at least), then go to wrecker get an automatic transmition cooler off some family car(like magna).[/b]

Lastly watch that the oil temp doesn't dip too low

[ae86 slide]

how is low oil temp a prob, i thought heat was our enemy

[crazy86]

You need the engine to be at "optimum operating temp". If it is too cold, then oil doesnt flow properly, clearances are different etc. Thats why you should always wait for your engine to warm up before you give it a thrash.

Back onto the CA18 cooler story, Does the CA adapter plate have the same thread as the 4AGE block? I occasionally see CA cooler kits selling 2nd hand for cheap, but unless i knnow it will fit, theres no point buying one.

[Monster]

Yeah Craig, the one that I gots (and Josh Young) has are ex- CA18

[verm69]

... so you're saying an oil cooler kit from a CA will fit onto a 4AGE/ZE????

is there anything else thats needed? coz i really want to put one on mine for track days n stuff

dave http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Monster]

***AN OIL COOLER KIT FROM A CA18 WILL SUIT A 4AGE/ZE***

But dont put one on your car for rice...


You need the engine to be at "optimum operating temp". If it is too cold, then oil doesnt flow properly, clearances are different etc. Thats why you should always wait for your engine to warm up before you give it a thrash.[/b]

Preach it brother!!!
My sponsor covers his over during normal driving because it runs the car too cold

[verm69]

... so if i baught a CA sandwitch plate for my ze it'll fit... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/huh.gif

man if it does toyota's AWSOME!!!

OH WHAT A FEELING! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Monster]

Sigh http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/dry.gif

[jnr 13b]

or you can go to earl and get the sandwich plate for $50-$60.
earl's oil coller for about $350(13row, which is what i'm using for my 20 silver top. has no problem what so ever). it even help keeping the engine cool. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

then work on you oil line.

It will cost you up about $700-$800. but now you have got big line and ealr oil cooler. I was told the earl makes the best cool out of most after market brand.

i can post pictures of my set up soon what i get my camera back.

[jnr 13b]

here some photo i found from my computer

[jnr 13b]

here a front shot show the oil filter relocator.

[jnr 13b]

last front on shot

[brad]

so if i was to buy one of these there is a pretty good chace that it will fit, i asked the dude selling it, he said it shoul the thread is 3/4,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-DRIFT-RACING-OI...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-DRIFT-RACING-OIL-COOLER-RELOCATION-KIT_W0QQitemZ4577160011QQcategoryZ32624QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem)
thanks brad

[jnr 13b]

here is the thing
the oil line is really hard to bent.
the deal look good.but the problem you might have is that the line might not fit where you want them to go.
as for me i got the oil cooler and adaptor first and then get the correct line to what i want.

have a look at what i did and you'll understand.
I don't have much bent.
but i pay more than $350 for what is in my car

[Sprinterboy]

Originally posted by brad@Sep 30 2005, 03:45 PM
so if i was to buy one of these there is a pretty good chace that it will fit, i asked the dude selling it, he said it shoul the thread is 3/4,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-DRIFT-RACING-OI...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-DRIFT-RACING-OIL-COOLER-RELOCATION-KIT_W0QQitemZ4577160011QQcategoryZ32624QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem)
thanks brad
i just bought one of these!!!!

I think it was HPI or drift battle just fitted the same cooler(brand and everything) to the 4dr skyline they were building up.

I'll be covering most of it up for daily driving as said previously, oil has to be warm to work well

[jnr 13b]

not sure what you guys are talking about.
my oil cooler line is alway hot.
abit too hot to touch. or it might just be the way i drive.
changing gear at 5000rev

[Gilly]

16v oil filter block and cooler on a silvertop 20v. possible and is this a n alright set up oilpressure drop etc, i know its only small but its better than nothing.

also why do 16v have oil coolers and 20v don't??

[crazy86]

^^^Whats your first question????

And 16v dont necessarily come with an oil cooler. I know mine didnt.

[jnr 13b]

if you are askign me i a had oil pressure drop.
well i don't see it. i don't have a oil pressure gauge.
but the dash on the stock sprinter(oil pressure) work find.

Idle over half way mark and go up as you rev it

[jnr 13b]

if you are askign me if i had oil pressure drop.
well i don't see it. i don't have a oil pressure gauge.
but the dash on the stock sprinter(oil pressure) work find.

Idle over half way mark and go up as you rev it

[mattysshop]

god damm it white boy, i don't know what your on about sometimes!! do you speak engrish? (thats english)

[crazy86]

I was asking 20v AE86, but either way, i have no idea what your talking about either. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ph34r.gif

[Sprinterboy]

oops

[crazy86]

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[Sprinterboy]

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[Gilly]

wow i'll have to read my posts before i post them!!

my question is can you use a 16v oilfilter block and cooler on a 20v silvertop?

hope thats more understandable!!

sorry

[crazy86]

16v and 20v coolers will be compatible, as the block is basically the same.