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redsprinter
12th March 2009, 11:00 AM
hi guys...

just wondering what ppls thought on chasers are >?

i really want to get one as a every day + tow car + midnight thrasher .

do they come in non-turbo version ?

and if i was to drop a non-turbo engine out of a supra will it be any good for towing ?

slydar
12th March 2009, 11:09 AM
josh has a jzx 90.

the non turbos only come in 2L na and diesel.

dunno if either of those would be a good tow car. the 2L def' not.

if youre gonna bother to do a conversion, i would consider just a cressida?

though theyre not the prettiest, the grande's are plush as, air, steer, leather, electric seats, cruise, they have everything.

and you can get a good one for 2 grand.

wouldnt even do the conversion till you popped the 7m.

marvis
12th March 2009, 11:28 AM
Cool cars... But everyone is jumping on the bandwagon atm with them and they cost a bit for what they are.

Hokey
12th March 2009, 11:30 AM
get an aristo. bigger capacity, auto which is better for towing and cheaper by a fair bit. make an easy 250atw with the 2j aswell :D

driftke70
12th March 2009, 11:33 AM
hilux,

2.7 3rz, + turb = wee

lsd, coil coversion in rear, set the front end up with s13 gear and your away

Konakid
12th March 2009, 11:41 AM
haha you love the 3rz idea hey haha.

No reason why a chaser/cresta/mk II couldnt be a sweet tow car.

Hokey
12th March 2009, 11:45 AM
yes 3rz is awesome. hopefully next motor for my car. pretty hard to find though. put some huge turbo on it and smoke the shit out of 4th :D

gumbie
12th March 2009, 11:56 AM
Who wouldn't want this towing there car?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byKBovFYp5c

Watch it from 45 sec and Prepare to Jizz In Your Pants!!

Beau
12th March 2009, 12:27 PM
short answer no

you'll break diffs and centres. gear ratios would be wrong for say hills and hwy..

also the car is not built for that sort of use in mind.. Therefore the rear cradle and chassis would not be sufficent for the load force that it would be subject to while towing.

Konakid
12th March 2009, 12:28 PM
chasers are so multi purpose, wheels, coilovers, 2 way, clutch and you wouldnt even need to tow you drift car to the track because you're already driving it.

Roll to work in it, do what ever in it, cops will think its a hotted up camry. Perfect.

driftke70
12th March 2009, 12:32 PM
haha you love the 3rz idea hey haha.

No reason why a chaser/cresta/mk II couldnt be a sweet tow car.


Id say im more addicted to the "3"

redsprinter
12th March 2009, 12:38 PM
umm i need to know about the non-turbo version .. i cant drive turbos .. so looking at the specs they have about 200nm odd of torque in na form .. that compared to my current tow car (ford eb) it has about 300nm of torque...

imo it doesnt look like much... can someone confirm?

ae71
12th March 2009, 12:40 PM
edit: have a look on wikipedia


agreed. they are beautiful cars, awesome build quality as you expect from the high end toyotas.

im just climbing my way into a cressy and really looking foward to getting the thing on the road. first drive of it just before the 7m shat its self proved a very comfy ride.

chasers and cressys are both quite heavy which is really needed for a tow car. the heavier the towing car the less it gets pushed around by the trailer which in turn makes it smoother. yes auto is most ideal for daily and towing as you tend not to thrash an auto, well i dont. when im driving the ke im more likely to ring it out in every gear, pop the clutch at times etc.

having said that not looking forward to putting fuel in the thing as im getting a consistent 440km's a tank from the ke (about 8L/100km?) if i manage about 10L/100km out of the cessy ill be stoked. also have to take into account more exxy insurance, more expesive tyres and you haev to do proper maintenance on these cars not like an old corolla where you only change the oil when its so black and gunked up you can use it as wheel bearing grease.

ae71
12th March 2009, 12:45 PM
from wiki

Output for the non-turbo 1JZ-GE was 200 hp JIS (147 kW) at 6000 rpm and 185 ft.lbf (250 Nm) at 4000 rpm.

id say thats enough for a daily driver.... worst case you may loose a bit of speed going up hills, if your towing. no big deal?

PuGZoR
12th March 2009, 01:25 PM
Aristo ftw! I has one, intending to use it to tow too down the track. Problem is they look ordinary if you don't lower them, and that can severely affect your towing ability... Wouldn't wanna go anywhere near any place that doesn't have even road, lol, I break out in a sweat when I see a speedbump even now.

IMHO, nothing wrong with a good 'ol twincab ute. Can't have everything in life, and utes are fkn great for a lot of things. Add twincab, and you can do your misses in the back too, while carrying a large load. Makes roadtrips more interesting. Hilux, Rodeo (Isuzu love), whatever floats your boat, most utes are pretty damn good. I'd pretty much kill someone for a Landcruiser ute, but they're so damn expensive! Was considering one, but Aristo won out, lol.

Course_Out
12th March 2009, 06:47 PM
I think you will find that a jzx90 is probably not rated to tow a great deal from the factory - the Japanese rarely use regular sedans to tow (most often use utes/trucks or flatbeds to cart cars) so it may not even have a tow rating

Even if you could get a bar for it and it could actualyl tow the weight, if you got pulled over you'd get reamed by the RTA for it if the car doesn't have the correct tow rating.

That said, I was looking into something similar previously and I'm pretty sure an mx83 Cressida is only rated to 1500kg, as are a lot of medium size 4 and 6 cylinders these days

EDIT - further to what Pugzor said, a lot of newer utes are actually pretty good to drive, and will be rated to tow over 2 tonne. Mazda bt50 springs to mind (they are comfy and the turbo diesels go well hard)

drift kid
12th March 2009, 06:56 PM
Cool cars... But everyone is jumping on the bandwagon atm with them and they cost a bit for what they are.

+1, for what you get, they are too pricey.

orange32
12th March 2009, 07:06 PM
From what i remember, chasers are only rated to tow 750kg's.

Delazy
12th March 2009, 07:11 PM
short answer no

you'll break diffs and centres. gear ratios would be wrong for say hills and hwy..

also the car is not built for that sort of use in mind.. Therefore the rear cradle and chassis would not be sufficent for the load force that it would be subject to while towing.

From what i remember, chasers are only rated to tow 750kg's.

these blokes state the truth...

very low tow rating...i mean a trailer alone weighs a fair chunk of that weight let alone with a car on it...

Dom86
12th March 2009, 07:49 PM
You would have to put in some heavy duty suspension for towing.
Cool cars but not for towing. I've also considered these for towing, not practical though.

That link is awsome gumbie. Hows the lock?

UGANGA
12th March 2009, 07:56 PM
you could always get a NA aristo

doony
12th March 2009, 08:03 PM
or a cressida?

Intense
12th March 2009, 08:08 PM
Avante G come out with a 2jz-ge from the factory

UGANGA
12th March 2009, 08:10 PM
or a V8 aristo lol :P

slide86
12th March 2009, 08:38 PM
Cool cars... But everyone is jumping on the bandwagon atm with them and they cost a bit for what they are.


+1, for what you get, they are too pricey.

errr have you owned or ever driven one?

i own a jzx100. best money i have ever spent, way better than buying my 86.

- climate control
- 4 airbags
- abs
- electric just about everything
- 7 speaker stereo factory with sub and amp
- comfy as fuck, could fall asleep driving it
- pulls like a freight train from 2000rpm
- sunroof
- bulletproof reliability

wouldnt tow anything with it tho, thats not what they are made for, and i dont think it would do the chassis any good, re load rating.

you cant get an atmo jzx100 complied in australia

much better going with some other suggestions such as the hilux route. much better for what you want.

Gunner
12th March 2009, 08:39 PM
a v8 4wd one even, but if your a p plater, you can only a trailer weighing 250kg empty

Biggus
12th March 2009, 08:54 PM
I've got a turbo 100 too. Wouldn't tow shit with it. I love mine to bits, but to tow, +1 for the Hilux.

Beau
12th March 2009, 10:34 PM
golden rule with tow cars.

Solid Axel means you can tow!

Revan
13th March 2009, 02:14 AM
do you need N/A cos youre a P plater?

imo baby jesus would cry tears of blood seeing a good chaser used as a tow car.

I back the cressida idea.

If you can have a turbo, you'd get a lot more for your money with a certain other car,
like pimp daddy every option, smackin ho's sippin santander, wrapped in leather silver spoon caviar suckin good time with a cherry on top...... if you went aristo in stead. god theyre hot cars when presented correctly.

dr1ft-pig
13th March 2009, 02:59 AM
as someone else stated... if you cant drive turbo coz your on your p's you cant tow a car legally

i am on my p's and i tow when i need to, mainly coz i dont give 2 fucks... but even cosider a v6 honda accord for a tow car

more luxuries than any toyota is ever going to have and they dont tow too bad, they lack a bit of power when towing but you have to expect that

i have towed my sprinter with my old boys v6 accord (98 model) with some of the bulky ass hire trailers we have around here and t does fine.... gets it to where you wanna take it, not as fast as you would without a trailer but you get there sittin in leather and 18 degree a/c, power seats etc...

maybe if your that set on buying a pimp looking toyota that goes well and has torque my bet would be on a celcior (lexus LS400???)

they run the 1UZ (4.0L quadcam V8) and they would tow very well being a heavy car and all... but then u still arent allowed to drive them on p plates.... although something like that would never get you pulled over in standard form

im over typing... end post.. top drunk

orido
13th March 2009, 06:20 AM
lpg commonwhore ftw

redsprinter
13th March 2009, 09:04 AM
i have been using my EB ford to tow my sprinter around ... cops dont really care imo . they're to worried about hoons and defecting cars ... i dont really speed and keep way below the speed limit when towing .. due to lack of power and having the smarts that what im towing is my pride and joy so i behave ... the ford does everything i want it to do .. but lacks the PIMP/sporty feel .. which i really want when im not towing... was looking into the lexus LS400 would be perfect but V8 and the too much pimpness. hehehe...

i figured a live axle would be better as a tow car ... but i just wonder how the CHASER would go... i guess ive got my answer ...

slide86
13th March 2009, 10:51 AM
lpg commonwhore ftw

i think you mean FTL

driftke70
13th March 2009, 01:14 PM
cheapr eb or ed falco is the go, much better than early commos, and a re going dirt cheap.

only bad thing about chasers is if they are in an impact ive heard they are hard as hell to get straight again.