Most expensive AE86 in Australia

[Jim621]

Hi All,

Was thinking the other day that AE86's are on the way up in value, with some people asking over $25k now for a nice example.

What is the most expensive AE86 do you know of that has sold in Australia? and why was it worth that much (or at least why did the buyer think it was worth that much)?

Steve.

[matt99]

Wouldn't mind seeing peoples responses on this without it turning into an argument.

Might be able to sell up my lot and pay off the mortgage.

[johl]

im pretty sure Seamus sold his for a good price. not 100% on sale price but he had it listed for high teens and must have got close to that. that car was definitely worth it too. if your not familiar with it search user name 70XIN

medwins 3sgte car back in the day was up for sale for 20 something thousand and didnt sell.

alot of clean jdm examples seem to hover around the 15k mark and seem to be able to get it with the right buyer. but there are always some people asking close to 30k which i have not seen one sell for that much. restored black limiteds are more expensive than that from carland but im pretty sure they wont sell to export either.

[Seventy]

I would be prepared to pay 15k for a good unmolested JDM one, 18k would be like max and it would have to be like showroom condition

[McLEVIN]

All very well to ask 25k for one in aus whether someone pays that much is another question... The black ltd on carsales has been for sale for years at 27k...but for 25k you could import a carland ae86 or another 1 owner unmolested car from japan..However tube garage ae86s are upwards of 30k. And an intial d replica from carland will set you back over 50k...
Its funny Americans have a heart attack when a gts is advertised for 7k.. if only they knew what we pay.

[dove grey 64]

Anyone know how much damo's car sold for? It was that mint kouki trueno with the toms cluster and blacktop 20v.

Personally, a mint unrestored vehicle is worth more then a restored car.
This is going on say for example, that one owner ae86 on speedhunters that was driven from the dealership to a underground workshop and never used again, still has plastic on everything etc is worth more then any other ae86 in the world to me.

But I'd still rather one with lowish k's that could be driven and enjoyed rather then shelved and looked at

[johl]

damo's was the closest thing to showroom condition in aus imo. i dont know what it was sold for but damo was looking for around 15k. pretty sure the guy that bought it stripped alot of the good parts off it and now its not in that great of shape. such a shame.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/3/524796.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/johlmansfield/media/P1080212_zps984bed3a.jpg.html)
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/3/524797.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/johlmansfield/media/P1080228_zpsf09c9985.jpg.html)
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/3/524798.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/johlmansfield/media/P1080159_zps4c47446d.jpg.html)

[McLEVIN]

Bargain.

[dove grey 64]

Damo's one was a perfect buy.
Now That was tastefully built.
I would pay upto 25k for one like that.

[johl]

at 15k i would say it would be a good investment. weekend driver and kept in the garage all year round. you would never lose money on it. the only problem is generally corolla people are cheap dodgy young adults. it would take a long time to find the right buyer.

[Jacobxxx]

Seamus' went for high teens, but he could have got that with the standard 4age in it TBH. That was crazy tidy, i drove it for about 3m and felt too dirty for it, had a legit 80,000k's on it

[mcBen]

Personally, a mint unrestored vehicle is worth more then a restored car.
This is going on say for example, that one owner ae86 on speedhunters that was driven from the dealership to a underground workshop and never used again, still has plastic on everything etc is worth more then any other ae86 in the world to me.

But I'd still rather one with lowish k's that could be driven and enjoyed rather then shelved and looked at

That one should actually go to a museum. There is a old Holden Statesman or something from the 70's in the Birdwood motor museum with like 50 k's which is a marvel to look at.

Seems like optimum selling range for ae86s is 5-8k due to the generally poorer crowd who want to own them. People selling them in the teens take a while to find a buyer that will appreciate it while poor sods buy them cheap, pour heaps of money into it and don't come close to making it as nice as some selling for 12-15k.

[Matt]

What doesn't help is kids who go oh I paid $800 for mine cos their grandparents neighbours cousin had it doing nothing.

I'd pay up to 20k for the right car with a beams or f20c.

Around 15k for a jdm with everything working / standard

[dove grey 64]

Mine had a legit 62,000ks when I bought it, previous owner fucked it in my eyes by respraying it white and doing a 4age swap.
Not a bad thing in hindsight though, dont have to be precious with it.
Currently has 102,000 k's ;)

[johnny2]

Probable worth the 27k black limited ae86 on carsales.com

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Toyota-Sprinter-1986/SSE-AD-152383/?Cr=2&sdmvc=1
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/19/5ezyty7u.jpg

[Jimmee1990]

I doubt it, that thing has had more hits than Elvis underneath. There's a very good reason it's been for sale for 5+ years lol.

[johnny2]

I doubt it, that thing has had more hits than Elvis underneath. There's a very good reason it's been for sale for 5+ years lol.

Had no idea it had been for sale for that long

[McLEVIN]

Nah its not as clean as it appears apparently. Has bent rails and not sure if its a legit BL

[pizzaeater]

you wouldn't pay more than 3k for that one on car sales.

I got my jdm ae86 with 4age for 2k

[Matt]

you wouldn't pay more than 3k for that one on car sales.

I got my jdm ae86 with 4age for 2k

Posts like this shit me, just because you got the car off your cousins friends mums deaf uncle cheap doesn't mean the car values aren't worth what most people pay for them.

Its a bit like people finding a mint 30,000km ke70 for $200 that was owned since new by a granny. They do pop up from time to time.

[dove grey 64]

Even if that BL isn't genuine most of its BL parts are worth more then 3k.

[Willofan]

Can I ask what AE86DC people think my AE86 race car is worth?
I have had an independent valuation and I know what it is insured for, but all that means jack if it is only worth what someone is willing to pay. However I understand this audience may not be the ones I would target if I was to sell.

The car is;
1986 AE86 GT Coupe – Group A spec race car (not for road use)
Built to order by TRD in Japan to FIA international Group A rules using all available TRD components into a brand new lightweight shell.
The customer was for Toyota Team Australia (AMI Toyota Ltd) to race in the Australian Touring Car Series under the international Group A rules.
It was first raced at the Castrol Sandown 500 in 1986 and again at the James Hardie 1000 Mt Panorama. It competed in the 1987 ATCC and the endurance races including Bathurst when it was crashed going into Skyline and subsequently repaired. It continued to race through 1988 again taking the Manufacturers Championship title for Toyota and a class win at Bathurst driven by John Faulkner and Drew Price. It was also awarded a Guinness World Book of Records for most consecutive starts and wins. It was last raced in 1989 by John Smith to knock off Ford for the ManChamp once again. The car was then retired and put into storage.
Between 1997 and 2011, the car was on display at the National Motorsport Museum at Bathurst till it was taken back by Toyota to restore for the 2012 release of the 86. The sister TTA AE86 coupe to this was built in 1985 and still sits in the Bathurst museum, the other 1984 TTA AE86 has been fully restored by its current owner in Melbourne.
This car still presents as last raced in 1988/89 and has not had been subjected to any body restoration. I have since rebuilt the engine, brakes and hydraulics, cooling system, fuel system and pumps. Updated all safety items including new harness and extinguisher.
The car is still race ready, CAMS Historic certified with current logbooks and was last raced at Eastern Creek Muscle Car masters in 2012. I still do hot laps and the odd track day.
So, tell me what you think it is worth…

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/5/0/5/524999.jpg (http://s1192.photobucket.com/user/willofan/media/IMG_5257.jpg.html)

[johl]

wow what a piece of history you have. it really is hard to put a price on it though. and i would imagine even harder to find the right buyer/collector.

in all honesty the only people i would think that would spend the right sort of money on this would be the irish. with this much history and uniqueness i think you would be able to get quite a few people wanting to look at it.

as a ball park figure i'd probably be aiming towards the 30k mark but i could be way under what it is worth as im just assuming the person buying it would be doing so for its historic value, not buying it to race it.

did toyota doing anything unique with the vin or build plate?

[McLEVIN]

I bet if it was a hatch you could put 40k now...but 30k seems reasonable and I dont think youd have too much trouble selling it...however if you held onto another 10-15 years when there are next to no ae86s on the road thats when you could get some serious money for it...there was an rx3 racing car in the shannons auctions that was est at 80k

[Matt]

About the same as beau Yates Hachi 30 -40k

[ditn]

Hm must have missed this topic :D

this is my guess

Actually last year i have seen a grp a car in slowly sideways http://www.ae86irl.com/forum/images/smilies/dft010.gif
Thats a very hard one to value,im gonna do a very wild guess but dont my word for it http://www.ae86irl.com/forum/images/smilies/dft010.gif
Seems like fun to guess the value


First the parts that probably are on the car but cant be for sure
Grp A engine 189 hp with all trd parts and history value 12000€
Gearbox im assuming a trd gearbox 2000€
r&p im assuming 5.3 1500€
breakes im assuming the trd calipers front and rear 4000€
axle cooling and other trd parts near it 1500€
Rollcage/seats/dash buttons and history 2000€
chassis and history with it 5000€
Wheels? 1000€
History value overall 5000€


total value guess 35000€

thats my guess could be totally of or i might overestimate history and stuff http://www.ae86irl.com/forum/images/smilies/dft010.gif

[bazz84]

Man that's an awesome car. I would have thought it would be worth alot more though. A historic group a raced in Australia would be 50+

[ditn]

Man that's an awesome car. I would have thought it would be worth alot more though. A historic group a raced in Australia would be 50+

In Australia probably i did an estimate living in Belgium :D
History plays also a big part in it,the one in spa 24h in the museum has won several championships in touring cant imagen how much that one is worth :D
http://www.speedhunters.com/2008/08/car_feature_gt_gt_unearthing_the_spa_24h_ae86/

There are also uncertaintis cause not all cars where the same.
The belgium grp a driving in slowly sideways is mint condition and i asked him if he would sell how he wanted for it,he said he would not even sell it for 50000€
But wanting and getting is different.

[44GTE]

Can I ask what AE86DC people think my AE86 race car is worth?
I have had an independent valuation and I know what it is insured for, but all that means jack if it is only worth what someone is willing to pay. However I understand this audience may not be the ones I would target if I was to sell.

The car is;
1986 AE86 GT Coupe – Group A spec race car (not for road use)
Built to order by TRD in Japan to FIA international Group A rules using all available TRD components into a brand new lightweight shell.
The customer was for Toyota Team Australia (AMI Toyota Ltd) to race in the Australian Touring Car Series under the international Group A rules.
It was first raced at the Castrol Sandown 500 in 1986 and again at the James Hardie 1000 Mt Panorama. It competed in the 1987 ATCC and the endurance races including Bathurst when it was crashed going into Skyline and subsequently repaired. It continued to race through 1988 again taking the Manufacturers Championship title for Toyota and a class win at Bathurst driven by John Faulkner and Drew Price. It was also awarded a Guinness World Book of Records for most consecutive starts and wins. It was last raced in 1989 by John Smith to knock off Ford for the ManChamp once again. The car was then retired and put into storage.
Between 1997 and 2011, the car was on display at the National Motorsport Museum at Bathurst till it was taken back by Toyota to restore for the 2012 release of the 86. The sister TTA AE86 coupe to this was built in 1985 and still sits in the Bathurst museum, the other 1984 TTA AE86 has been fully restored by its current owner in Melbourne.
This car still presents as last raced in 1988/89 and has not had been subjected to any body restoration. I have since rebuilt the engine, brakes and hydraulics, cooling system, fuel system and pumps. Updated all safety items including new harness and extinguisher.
The car is still race ready, CAMS Historic certified with current logbooks and was last raced at Eastern Creek Muscle Car masters in 2012. I still do hot laps and the odd track day.
So, tell me what you think it is worth…

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/5/0/5/524999.jpg (http://s1192.photobucket.com/user/willofan/media/IMG_5257.jpg.html)



Hi Chris

Some people on here are just to young and wouldn't know or appreciate what this car and the other AE86's in Group A era have done and earned.
I for one was around in that era as you know and can appreciate it.

I would definately be interested in it if ever up for sale or the sister car to that matter of fact. So if thinking about selling please contact me. I would most definately drop all to fully restore.

I am not going to put a price on it as it would only start an over reaction and shit fight on here.

What you did pay for it would only make for more ammusement and when i found out i was just kicking myself.

Cheers

[Matt]

It would be awesome to see this in action

[focus_7]

Chris' car really is a fantastic machine, I've been lucky enough to see it in the flesh in his shed. I'm not sure what the story is on what Chris paid, but whatever it was it's worth much more now with allt he work he's put into it.

[McLEVIN]

Can I ask what AE86DC people think my AE86 race car is worth?
I have had an independent valuation and I know what it is insured for, but all that means jack if it is only worth what someone is willing to pay. However I understand this audience may not be the ones I would target if I was to sell.

The car is;
1986 AE86 GT Coupe – Group A spec race car (not for road use)
Built to order by TRD in Japan to FIA international Group A rules using all available TRD components into a brand new lightweight shell.
The customer was for Toyota Team Australia (AMI Toyota Ltd) to race in the Australian Touring Car Series under the international Group A rules.
It was first raced at the Castrol Sandown 500 in 1986 and again at the James Hardie 1000 Mt Panorama. It competed in the 1987 ATCC and the endurance races including Bathurst when it was crashed going into Skyline and subsequently repaired. It continued to race through 1988 again taking the Manufacturers Championship title for Toyota and a class win at Bathurst driven by John Faulkner and Drew Price. It was also awarded a Guinness World Book of Records for most consecutive starts and wins. It was last raced in 1989 by John Smith to knock off Ford for the ManChamp once again. The car was then retired and put into storage.
Between 1997 and 2011, the car was on display at the National Motorsport Museum at Bathurst till it was taken back by Toyota to restore for the 2012 release of the 86. The sister TTA AE86 coupe to this was built in 1985 and still sits in the Bathurst museum, the other 1984 TTA AE86 has been fully restored by its current owner in Melbourne.
This car still presents as last raced in 1988/89 and has not had been subjected to any body restoration. I have since rebuilt the engine, brakes and hydraulics, cooling system, fuel system and pumps. Updated all safety items including new harness and extinguisher.
The car is still race ready, CAMS Historic certified with current logbooks and was last raced at Eastern Creek Muscle Car masters in 2012. I still do hot laps and the odd track day.
So, tell me what you think it is worth…

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/5/0/5/524999.jpg (http://s1192.photobucket.com/user/willofan/media/IMG_5257.jpg.html)

willofan you should bring this over to adelaide for the adelaide motor sport festival. they are re-opening the old F1 track and having a whole lot of old historic racers and f1 cars to compete in time trials, your car is perfect for this event, its exactly what they are after. http://www.adelaidemotorsportfestival.com.au/

[AJPS]

yes!!!!