Has anyone run a 195 45 15 tire on the front before?

[slydar]

ok. so im a little under the weather today and youre gonna cop it.

who the fuck are you? seriously?

the tire in question is easily within load rating for an 86, that and the fact is very close to the stock rolling diameter and tread section make it a legitimate question..

this is a legitimate question asked from a performance point of view.

ive already stated the positive attributes.. but again -

the rolling diameter is similar to a 185 55 14. which most people on here would not argue is an unreasonable size for a hachi.

using the smaller tire and the larger rim give more room (between the ball joint and the inside of the rim) for a larger RCA for better geometry at the same ride height.

also the shorter side wall doesnt need as wide a rim to give a mild stretch. the narrower rim (which is always in a less deep offset) should steer a bit better and give more room for more lock etc.

honestly. your response is pretty annoying. youre as bad as the old fuckwit holden/ford street machiners 5/10 years ago. no imagination, completely afraid of change.

shoot me down for just wanting a little discussion about a particular tire choice before i commit to spending $2k on a set of wheels that suit.

i was here first. youre welcome to leave. otherwise shut up.

[Sam-Q]

Dimitri you didn't mention what I think would be the best one- with the lower side wall you get to have a common wheel size but still have a good balance between side wall rigidity vs good contact patch and the lack of "tram-lining"

I want to see what your results are in using these as I think it would work out well

[OniKyan]

Ohh, yeah. I forgot how awesome stretch is.

In case you couldn't tell, that thing at the end of my post was a question mark, which means I was asking a question. Not calling you a hardparking hipster. I don't understand why you would want to run the smaller tyres, it's a legitimate lack of understanding.

I was always under the impression that more tyre means more grip....

I wasn't dissin' you, holmes. Sorry if it seemed that way.

[benzo]

Dude, seriously..?

You gonna preach on how mild stretch is from hell, on an AE86 forum....

Don't even go down the path > more tyre = more grip

[ke_70]

more tyre does not alway mean more grip.
i know this goes against everything everyone knows...

[OniKyan]

Well, in that case then, my point seems invalid. Carry on, my bad. My lack of understanding as to why you would want to run smaller than commonly used (on AE86's) tyres was that, it seems like a lot of effort to find good tyres in that size, then you would be the one testing if they work out well. When 195/50's, 205/50's etc are more commonly available and I was under the presumption that larger tyres would give you more grip.

[slydar]

it isnt smaller? its a normal size for an 86. people usually use 185 or 195 on the front. sometimes 205. unless it a competition/race car. which is not what im building.

its a weekend fun/drift car. ive driven 86s with high quality performance 195 tires on the front before. i dont want any extra grip. its plenty for the road and any level of drift competition im likely to be involved in.

stretch isnt bad. i cant believe people still go on about it. its been proven for decades to be safe if kept to responsible levels. if you like the look, then cool. if you dont, dont sweat it. you loose a little grip, you gain a little rigidity/response. if your car isnt built to compete in a timed event, then tune it to the level of grip/look that you want.

[ke_70]

i thought stretch stuffed with the slip angles on the tyres?

not calling you wrong just want to discuss it...

and isn't standed width 175? i wouldn't put much wider than a 195 anyway.

[OniKyan]

That's fair enough, the reasons you explained in the post at the top of this page make a lot of sense anyway.

I've just always heard that stretched tyres increases sidewall rigidity and reduces contact patch to the point where you lose grip. I've got super stretched tyres on my AE86 and would like a little more front end grip, it's just nearly impossible to find tyres bigger than a 185/60/14 and that's why I thought people run stretch, due to tyre availability.

I couldn't grasp the concept of why you would want to intentionally build to have stretch as it's commonly looked down upon by grip oriented communities (sometimes I forget people like to drift) but you've made your reasons quite clear.

Carry on, good sir.